Naughty, naughty Wonder Under!

[Leslie & The Furbabies in MO.]

My WU is separating from the paper- again! I bought fresh WU making
sure it was attached when I bought it. I stored it rolled on the
cardboard cylinder that it was on at the store. I handled it gently
and it *still* separated. grrrrrrr!!!

I got this info from the Pellon website (manufacturors of WU)
"Overtime, if Wonder-Under® separates from the paper, it can still be
used. Simply place the web on the surface to be fused, cover with the
Wonder-Under® release paper, and press with a hot, dry iron. Fabric,
web and paper will stick together. Proceed with directions for cutting,
peeling and fusing." Well, that doesn't help much.....

Does anybody know of any tricks to get the webbing re-attached to the
paper? Handling it the way Pellon suggests is a royal pain!

Leslie (very frustrated) & The Furbabies in MO.

[Jessamy]

how about pressing it a bit at a time on one of those non stick pressing
sheets? (without fabric that is )
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My WU is separating from the paper- again! I bought fresh WU making
sure it was attached when I bought it. I stored it rolled on the
cardboard cylinder that it was on at the store. I handled it gently
and it *still* separated. grrrrrrr!!!

I got this info from the Pellon website (manufacturors of WU)
"Overtime, if Wonder-Under® separates from the paper, it can still be
used. Simply place the web on the surface to be fused, cover with the
Wonder-Under® release paper, and press with a hot, dry iron. Fabric,
web and paper will stick together. Proceed with directions for cutting,
peeling and fusing." Well, that doesn't help much.....

Does anybody know of any tricks to get the webbing re-attached to the
paper? Handling it the way Pellon suggests is a royal pain!

Leslie (very frustrated) & The Furbabies in MO.

[Kathy Applebaum]

No help on that problem, but I'll gladly trade problems with you. My bolt
doesn't want to separate from the paper *after* I fuse it. Grrr....
--
Kathy A. (Woodland, CA)
Queen of Fabric Tramps
mailto:***@KayneyNOSPAMQuilting.com
http://fabrictramp.typepad.com/fabric_tramping/
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"Leslie & The Furbabies in MO." <***@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:***@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
My WU is separating from the paper- again! I bought fresh WU making
sure it was attached when I bought it. I stored it rolled on the
cardboard cylinder that it was on at the store. I handled it gently
and it *still* separated. grrrrrrr!!!

I got this info from the Pellon website (manufacturors of WU)
"Overtime, if Wonder-Under® separates from the paper, it can still be
used. Simply place the web on the surface to be fused, cover with the
Wonder-Under® release paper, and press with a hot, dry iron. Fabric,
web and paper will stick together. Proceed with directions for cutting,
peeling and fusing." Well, that doesn't help much.....

Does anybody know of any tricks to get the webbing re-attached to the
paper? Handling it the way Pellon suggests is a royal pain!

Leslie (very frustrated) & The Furbabies in MO.

[Leslie & The Furbabies in MO.]

Kathy-

Pellon's website had a tip for your problem. Slightly warm the fabric
with your iron and peel off the WU while it's still warm. HTH

Leslie & The Furbabies in MO.

Post by Kathy Applebaum
No help on that problem, but I'll gladly trade problems with you. My bolt
doesn't want to separate from the paper *after* I fuse it. Grrr....
--
Kathy A. (Woodland, CA)
Queen of Fabric Tramps
http://fabrictramp.typepad.com/fabric_tramping/
remove the obvious to reply
My WU is separating from the paper- again! I bought fresh WU making
sure it was attached when I bought it. I stored it rolled on the
cardboard cylinder that it was on at the store. I handled it gently
and it *still* separated. grrrrrrr!!!
I got this info from the Pellon website (manufacturors of WU)
"Overtime, if Wonder-Under® separates from the paper, it can still be
used. Simply place the web on the surface to be fused, cover with the
Wonder-Under® release paper, and press with a hot, dry iron. Fabric,
web and paper will stick together. Proceed with directions for cutting,
peeling and fusing." Well, that doesn't help much.....
Does anybody know of any tricks to get the webbing re-attached to the
paper? Handling it the way Pellon suggests is a royal pain!
Leslie (very frustrated) & The Furbabies in MO.

[Kathy Applebaum]

Post by Leslie & The Furbabies in MO.
Kathy-
Pellon's website had a tip for your problem. Slightly warm the fabric
with your iron and peel off the WU while it's still warm. HTH

BTDT, doesn't always work. It's like there's not enough release on the
release paper, and it fuses to the paper better than the fabric. It's
getting to be majorly annoying -- when Wonder Under works, it's the most
marvelous stuff in the world. But I'm getting a bit tired of buying bolts
that aren't any good. :(

[Kate Dicey]

Post by Kathy Applebaum
No help on that problem, but I'll gladly trade problems with you. My bolt
doesn't want to separate from the paper *after* I fuse it. Grrr....

Use a higher iron setting and make sure you leave it to cool before
trying to separate. Most of the problems I and the kids have had with
it come from too cool and iron and not letting it cool down afterwards,
before peeling.

[Kathy Applebaum]

Post by Kathy Applebaum
No help on that problem, but I'll gladly trade problems with you. My bolt
doesn't want to separate from the paper *after* I fuse it. Grrr....

Use a higher iron setting and make sure you leave it to cool before trying
to separate. Most of the problems I and the kids have had with it come
from too cool and iron and not letting it cool down afterwards, before
peeling.

My iron is a hot one, and I leave it maxed out. I've tried the recommended
time, more time, less time. It seems to be a batch issue -- the same
setting, time, (and on the same fabric) works on some bolts and not on
others. As I told Leslie, it seems to be an issue with the release paper not
being coated consistently. On this particular bolt, there will be spots on
the paper where the fusing sticks to the paper much better than it sticks to
the fabric.

This problem happened to me on a bolt I bought last year, and Pellon
confirmed at that time it was a release paper problem. I returned that bolt
to TSWLTH (which was a nightmare, and the last time I'll shop at that
particular branch), but I'm getting might tired of the problem. :(

[Kate Dicey]

Post by Kathy Applebaum

Post by Kathy Applebaum
No help on that problem, but I'll gladly trade problems with you. My bolt
doesn't want to separate from the paper *after* I fuse it. Grrr....

Use a higher iron setting and make sure you leave it to cool before trying
to separate. Most of the problems I and the kids have had with it come
from too cool and iron and not letting it cool down afterwards, before
peeling.

My iron is a hot one, and I leave it maxed out. I've tried the recommended
time, more time, less time. It seems to be a batch issue -- the same
setting, time, (and on the same fabric) works on some bolts and not on
others. As I told Leslie, it seems to be an issue with the release paper not
being coated consistently. On this particular bolt, there will be spots on
the paper where the fusing sticks to the paper much better than it sticks to
the fabric.
This problem happened to me on a bolt I bought last year, and Pellon
confirmed at that time it was a release paper problem. I returned that bolt
to TSWLTH (which was a nightmare, and the last time I'll shop at that
particular branch), but I'm getting might tired of the problem. :(

How annoying. I'm lucky that I've never had that problem. Most of the
problems I've had with it are that it came loose from the paper because
the kids handled it too much! :) Occasionally they want to stick it to
something it doesn't love, like poly dupion/satin back crepe, or
something lurex that won't take the heat needed for fusing.

[KJ]

Well this doesn't get it reattached to the release paper, but you could just
use it like some of the girls in the "Chicago School of Fusing" do. That
would be Frieda Anderson http://www.friestyle.com/, Laura Wasilowski
http://www.artfabrik.com/ and Melody Johnson http://www.wowmelody.com/
and I can never remember the other women...oh here they are
http://www.artfabrik.com/csof.html They fuse their entire piece of
fabric, and then pull off the release paper. To draw a motif, draw ON the
release paper and then iron the paper on to the fusible side of the fabric.
You have to make sure you put the side you drew on down next to the fusible
web side of the fabric. Your design will transfer to the fabric to then cut
out. The advantages are that you don't have to pull paper off which
sometimes makes extra little fuzzies around your motif, and you can do
freehand cutting easily. One of the disadvantages is that you have to be
vigilant about where you iron is in relation to any uncovered bit of fused
fabric. At least you could use all your detached Wonder Under at one time
and then hope the next batch is ok. You also might think about cutting the
next batch into sheets that you could then store flat in a ziplock bag so
the humidity changes don't effect it. Just some ideas.
KJ


"Leslie & The Furbabies in MO." <***@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:***@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
My WU is separating from the paper- again! I bought fresh WU making
sure it was attached when I bought it. I stored it rolled on the
cardboard cylinder that it was on at the store. I handled it gently
and it *still* separated. grrrrrrr!!!

I got this info from the Pellon website (manufacturors of WU)
"Overtime, if Wonder-Under® separates from the paper, it can still be
used. Simply place the web on the surface to be fused, cover with the
Wonder-Under® release paper, and press with a hot, dry iron. Fabric,
web and paper will stick together. Proceed with directions for cutting,
peeling and fusing." Well, that doesn't help much.....

Does anybody know of any tricks to get the webbing re-attached to the
paper? Handling it the way Pellon suggests is a royal pain!

Leslie (very frustrated) & The Furbabies in MO.

[Leslie & The Furbabies in MO.]

That's a good idea, BUT if you iron on the fabric first, you have a
bunch of fabric with fusible on it. I'm using about 100 (literally!)
different fabrics on this project with a bunch of odd shapes- some
quite large- so planning ahead with the size of fabric to pre-fuse is
about impossible. I'll think on this, tho. I might be able to pull
that off to prevent additional hassles with the WU.

Thanks!

Leslie & The Furbabies in MO.

Post by KJ
Well this doesn't get it reattached to the release paper, but you could just
use it like some of the girls in the "Chicago School of Fusing" do. That
would be Frieda Anderson http://www.friestyle.com/, Laura Wasilowski
http://www.artfabrik.com/ and Melody Johnson http://www.wowmelody.com/
and I can never remember the other women...oh here they are
http://www.artfabrik.com/csof.html They fuse their entire piece of
fabric, and then pull off the release paper. To draw a motif, draw ON the
release paper and then iron the paper on to the fusible side of the fabric.
You have to make sure you put the side you drew on down next to the fusible
web side of the fabric. Your design will transfer to the fabric to then cut
out. The advantages are that you don't have to pull paper off which
sometimes makes extra little fuzzies around your motif, and you can do
freehand cutting easily. One of the disadvantages is that you have to be
vigilant about where you iron is in relation to any uncovered bit of fused
fabric. At least you could use all your detached Wonder Under at one time
and then hope the next batch is ok. You also might think about cutting the
next batch into sheets that you could then store flat in a ziplock bag so
the humidity changes don't effect it. Just some ideas.
KJ
My WU is separating from the paper- again! I bought fresh WU making
sure it was attached when I bought it. I stored it rolled on the
cardboard cylinder that it was on at the store. I handled it gently
and it *still* separated. grrrrrrr!!!
I got this info from the Pellon website (manufacturors of WU)
"Overtime, if Wonder-Under® separates from the paper, it can still be
used. Simply place the web on the surface to be fused, cover with the
Wonder-Under® release paper, and press with a hot, dry iron. Fabric,
web and paper will stick together. Proceed with directions for cutting,
peeling and fusing." Well, that doesn't help much.....
Does anybody know of any tricks to get the webbing re-attached to the
paper? Handling it the way Pellon suggests is a royal pain!
Leslie (very frustrated) & The Furbabies in MO.

[KJ]

Yes, you have sacrificed the whole chunk of fabric to future fusible
projects. That group ONLY does fusible, so it works great for them. But
maybe you could plan to have a stash of ready-to-fuse fabrics for the future
and use up your detached WU. Just be sure to keep the release paper....it's
very important with this method!
KJ

"Leslie & The Furbabies in MO." <***@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:***@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
That's a good idea, BUT if you iron on the fabric first, you have a
bunch of fabric with fusible on it. I'm using about 100 (literally!)
different fabrics on this project with a bunch of odd shapes- some
quite large- so planning ahead with the size of fabric to pre-fuse is
about impossible. I'll think on this, tho. I might be able to pull
that off to prevent additional hassles with the WU.

Thanks!

Leslie & The Furbabies in MO.

Post by KJ
Well this doesn't get it reattached to the release paper, but you could just
use it like some of the girls in the "Chicago School of Fusing" do. That
would be Frieda Anderson http://www.friestyle.com/, Laura Wasilowski
http://www.artfabrik.com/ and Melody Johnson http://www.wowmelody.com/
and I can never remember the other women...oh here they are
http://www.artfabrik.com/csof.html They fuse their entire piece of
fabric, and then pull off the release paper. To draw a motif, draw ON the
release paper and then iron the paper on to the fusible side of the fabric.
You have to make sure you put the side you drew on down next to the fusible
web side of the fabric. Your design will transfer to the fabric to then cut
out. The advantages are that you don't have to pull paper off which
sometimes makes extra little fuzzies around your motif, and you can do
freehand cutting easily. One of the disadvantages is that you have to be
vigilant about where you iron is in relation to any uncovered bit of fused
fabric. At least you could use all your detached Wonder Under at one time
and then hope the next batch is ok. You also might think about cutting the
next batch into sheets that you could then store flat in a ziplock bag so
the humidity changes don't effect it. Just some ideas.
KJ
My WU is separating from the paper- again! I bought fresh WU making
sure it was attached when I bought it. I stored it rolled on the
cardboard cylinder that it was on at the store. I handled it gently
and it *still* separated. grrrrrrr!!!
I got this info from the Pellon website (manufacturors of WU)
"Overtime, if Wonder-Under® separates from the paper, it can still be
used. Simply place the web on the surface to be fused, cover with the
Wonder-Under® release paper, and press with a hot, dry iron. Fabric,
web and paper will stick together. Proceed with directions for cutting,
peeling and fusing." Well, that doesn't help much.....
Does anybody know of any tricks to get the webbing re-attached to the
paper? Handling it the way Pellon suggests is a royal pain!
Leslie (very frustrated) & The Furbabies in MO.

[Kate Dicey]

Post by Leslie & The Furbabies in MO.
My WU is separating from the paper- again! I bought fresh WU making
sure it was attached when I bought it. I stored it rolled on the
cardboard cylinder that it was on at the store. I handled it gently
and it *still* separated. grrrrrrr!!!
I got this info from the Pellon website (manufacturors of WU)
"Overtime, if Wonder-Under® separates from the paper, it can still be
used. Simply place the web on the surface to be fused, cover with the
Wonder-Under® release paper, and press with a hot, dry iron. Fabric,
web and paper will stick together. Proceed with directions for cutting,
peeling and fusing." Well, that doesn't help much.....
Does anybody know of any tricks to get the webbing re-attached to the
paper? Handling it the way Pellon suggests is a royal pain!
Leslie (very frustrated) & The Furbabies in MO.

When some of mine became detached (I've had the roll over 10 years and
it still rarely causes a problem) I found the best way to reattach it to
the paper was to place it goo side down on a sheet of Magic Carpet*
(non-stick oven/baking tray liner) and iron it with the paper on top.
When it cools, you can peel it off the liner and it sticks to the paper.
:) Then just use as ever you would...


Magic carpet:
http://www.lakelandlimited.co.uk/product.aspx/cookbake/baking!5570_5571

These folk seem to do something similar:

Bake O Glide: http://www.bake-o-glide.co.uk/Falcon-Products-dom.htm

[Donna in Idaho]

I solved the problem by not using Wonder Under - I like Heat and Bond much
better. Used to really like Allene's Hot Fusible, but they quit making
that. Seems to be the story of my life - if I really like something they
quit making it. I also like Lite Steam a Seam II. I know lots of people
use and like Wonder Under, but it's never been my favorite fusible.
--
Donna in Idaho
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"Leslie & The Furbabies in MO." <***@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:***@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
My WU is separating from the paper- again! I bought fresh WU making
sure it was attached when I bought it. I stored it rolled on the
cardboard cylinder that it was on at the store. I handled it gently
and it *still* separated. grrrrrrr!!!

I got this info from the Pellon website (manufacturors of WU)
"Overtime, if Wonder-Under® separates from the paper, it can still be
used. Simply place the web on the surface to be fused, cover with the
Wonder-Under® release paper, and press with a hot, dry iron. Fabric,
web and paper will stick together. Proceed with directions for cutting,
peeling and fusing." Well, that doesn't help much.....

Does anybody know of any tricks to get the webbing re-attached to the
paper? Handling it the way Pellon suggests is a royal pain!

Leslie (very frustrated) & The Furbabies in MO.

[Taria]

I use heat and bond lite also Donna. It works great for me.
TAria

Post by Donna in Idaho
I solved the problem by not using Wonder Under - I like Heat and Bond much
better. Used to really like Allene's Hot Fusible, but they quit making
that. Seems to be the story of my life - if I really like something they
quit making it. I also like Lite Steam a Seam II. I know lots of people
use and like Wonder Under, but it's never been my favorite fusible.

[Don/Gen]

This is why I really do Not like this stuff. I just finished a class where
we had to use it, and I still hate it. Steam-a-seam is so much more user
friendly. The lite SAS isn't as stiff as the regular. In all he years I've
been sewing I've never gotten to like WU.
Gen

"Leslie & The Furbabies in MO." <***@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:***@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
My WU is separating from the paper- again! I bought fresh WU making
sure it was attached when I bought it. I stored it rolled on the
cardboard cylinder that it was on at the store. I handled it gently
and it *still* separated. grrrrrrr!!!

I got this info from the Pellon website (manufacturors of WU)
"Overtime, if Wonder-Under® separates from the paper, it can still be
used. Simply place the web on the surface to be fused, cover with the
Wonder-Under® release paper, and press with a hot, dry iron. Fabric,
web and paper will stick together. Proceed with directions for cutting,
peeling and fusing." Well, that doesn't help much.....

Does anybody know of any tricks to get the webbing re-attached to the
paper? Handling it the way Pellon suggests is a royal pain!

Leslie (very frustrated) & The Furbabies in MO.